Episode 4: Temporary Iconoclasms

Hosted by Nicole Emser Marcel

Release date: December 9, 2021

In this episode, producer Nicole Emser Marcel asks: How can artists intervene in or mediate an existing monument? And could these interventions bring about long-term change? To answer these questions, two very different sites are explored from opposite sides of the Atlantic: Tony Oursler’s artist installation at the Oude Kerk in Amsterdam (2014-15) and Dustin Klein and Alex Criqui’s impromptu projections on the Robert E. Lee Memorial in Richmond, Virginia during the summer of 2020.

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About this episode of Monument Biography

About the host:

Nicole Emser Marcel studies modern and contemporary Caribbean art. Her research interests include iconoclasm, geography, feminist theory, and religion. She holds a M.A. in Art History from American University and a B.A. in History from Xavier University. She previously taught at IUPUI in Indianapolis and worked at the National Women’s History Museum in Washington, DC.

About the guests:

Jacqueline Grandjean is the director and curator of the Oude Kerk museum in Amsterdam.

Dustin Klein and Alex Criqui are artists and activists creating projection-based protest art addressing systemic racism, human rights, and historical narratives. Their work can be found at https://www.reclaimingthemonument.com/

Want to learn more about the topics covered in this episode?

Oude Kerk/Tony Oursler

  • Official website of the Oude Kerk

  • Official website of Tony Oursler

  • Tony Oursler, Jacqueline Grandjean, and Petra Heck. Tony Oursler: I/O  Underflow. Edited by Ester Serrano. Amsterdam: Stichting de Oude Kerk, 2015. 

Robert E. Lee Memorial/Dustin Klein and Alex Criqui

Activism in Richmond (recommended by Dustin Klein and Alex Criqui).

Music credits for this episode of Monument Biography:

“Entwined Oddity” by Blue Dot Sessions

Organ music from the Oude Kerk in Amsterdam

Recording of Tony Oursler’s installation I/O Underflow, 2014

Scenes from Richmond, Virginia, available on Alex Criqui’s Instagram page

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